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I'm calling out DarkRogue tonight

By jsid
4/20/2017 12:39 pm
I'm giving them until then to get ahead of this story and tell us why he decided to deceive the community again and did nothing to negate the effects of his collusion.

Re: I'm calling out DarkRogue tonight

By eyeballll
4/20/2017 8:12 pm
<sits in lawn chair, eats popcorn.>

Re: I'm calling out DarkRogue tonight

By jsid
4/20/2017 9:22 pm
Over a year ago DarkRogue was a user that got busted for using multi accounts in a one-man collusion scheme. It took many of us by surprise as he was a well-respected owner. He admitted to the cheating and was placed on a team restriction. He was allowed to keep his most stacked teams: MFN1 Cincinatti, FakePigskin San Diego, and MFN31 Atlanta.

DarkRogue remained in the game for a bit, but was generally not well liked. I believe to get around the team restriction (though he says that was just temporary) or to stop being a pariah, he used another previously undisclosed multi. DarkRogue gave up ownership of his three juggernaut teams. They were all picked up by the same user: lellow2011.

lellow2011 took those teams with a ton of talent and a ton of draft picks and was massively successful.

MFN 1 Cincinnati: Two league championships, one more division title, in a very competitive league
Fake Pigskin SD/LA: Three league championships, one more conference championship, three more division championships, never lost more than two regular season games.
MFN31 Atlanta: Two league championships, three more conference championships, one more division championship. Three consecutive 16-0 seasons.

When I realized this, I looked to see if there were any additional similarities:

Both were polite, respected users until people found out about the deception.

DR joined 7/18/2015. lellow2011 joined 7/20/2015.

If you check his post history, lellow2011 goes from complete silence on the community forums to frequent poster almost instantly in January 2016, which is just about when DarkRogue stopped posting there.

There's some similarities between the way they post in the forum too. The “sigh” and “LBer” are what convinced me they were the same:


Noticing all this I concluded that lellow2011 was probably DarkRogue, but I didn’t want to say anything without being completely sure. Recently I mentioned in the forums that I believed that DarkRogue was still around using a different name. The DarkRogue account came out of darkness to respond to me, confirming that suspicion.

Re: I'm calling out DarkRogue tonight

By parsh
4/20/2017 10:07 pm
I feel like I just watched an episode of Sherlock ... Lol

Re: I'm calling out DarkRogue tonight

By punisher
4/20/2017 10:17 pm
jsid wrote:

Noticing all this I concluded that lellow2011 was probably DarkRogue, but I didn’t want to say anything without being completely sure. Recently I mentioned in the forums that I believed that DarkRogue was still around using a different name. The DarkRogue account came out of darkness to respond to me, confirming that suspicion.


Well i would imagine that is going to be hard to prove lellow2011 and darkrogue are the same person even if you tell the JDB about this or looks into it.

Also for lellow2011 sake i hope he isnt because if he is i just lost tons of respect for the person and really if lellow2011 is/was darkrogue the whole time i can imagine people are going to be livid about it especially considering he has won titles like no one's business.

also if he is/was darkrogue the whole time i also have to worry about what is going to the titles in the leagues that lellow2011 are they going to be vacated or is the team who lost to him going to all sudden become the winner.


basically what i am saying if this is True this is truly going to be nightmare or a mess for JDB to clean up.

And if it is False then really JSID i dont think you should be making accusations especially where you could/can ruin someone's reputation.

Re: I'm calling out DarkRogue tonight

By jsid
4/20/2017 10:19 pm
punisher wrote:
[quote="jsid"]And if it is False then really JSID i dont think you should be making accusations especially where you could/can ruin someone's reputation.


If I'm wrong I'll apologize and leave the game.

Re: I'm calling out DarkRogue tonight

By punisher
4/20/2017 10:21 pm
jsid wrote:
punisher wrote:
[quote="jsid"]And if it is False then really JSID i dont think you should be making accusations especially where you could/can ruin someone's reputation.


If I'm wrong I'll apologize and leave the game.


you dont have to leave the game .

it is probably better to give this stuff to JDB and let him sort it out to see if this is correct or wrong.

Re: I'm calling out DarkRogue tonight

By jsid
4/20/2017 10:24 pm
punisher wrote:
jsid wrote:
punisher wrote:
[quote="jsid"]And if it is False then really JSID i dont think you should be making accusations especially where you could/can ruin someone's reputation.


If I'm wrong I'll apologize and leave the game.


you dont have to leave the game .

it is probably better to give this stuff to JDB and let him sort it out to see if this is correct or wrong.


I gave him this information earlier today. I have reasons I wanted to put this in the public though.

Re: I'm calling out DarkRogue tonight

By setherick
4/20/2017 10:32 pm
This is interesting. Lellow came to MFN-19 right about the time we had our own multi weirdness.

We had two owners RunTheGame and JChicago31 that were obviously the same person or shared the same computer. We knew this because one time RunTheGame posted something on the forums, immediately deleted the post, then JChicago31 posted THE EXACT SAME POST word-for-word. The two accounts were created at about the same time, etc. The weird thing about those two users is that they never traded with one another or anything else that was suspicious. They also both left the game around the same time (except both accounts have recently been active).

In general, I wish I could say I was shocked about Lellow if this is all true, but in some ways, I'm really not.

Re: I'm calling out DarkRogue tonight

By Gustoon
4/20/2017 11:52 pm
jsid wrote:
punisher wrote:
[quote="jsid"]And if it is False then really JSID i dont think you should be making accusations especially where you could/can ruin someone's reputation.


If I'm wrong I'll apologize and leave the game.


I think we have a right to know